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Drilling rigs here. >> he formed an advocacy group and is building a visitors center with whatever donations he can collect online. if this place was anywhere but utah, it would have been protected as a national park a long time ago. because of the politics of utah, this place is still a debate. >> the only thing this administration understands is lawsuits. >> and the head of patagonia says he's ready for a long, legal fight fp. >> we're losing this plan, and we have an evil government. and not just the federal government, but evil politicians out of utah. it's evil. i'm not going to stand bac...

That then require k street and industries to send money. it is sort of like the parasite and the host are sort of switching relationships in a strange way. so dick durbin and mike enzi, you know, they figured out, okay, we're going to work with we're going to pick that fight fp not because they liked it but they knew it was going to raise money. >> i'm offended. i want to talk about the policy merit. >> they might also have liked the policy. >> i do want to figure out whether this is good policy, how i should feel about this vote and whether i should see a vote in the house. i want you to weig...