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It was interesting, i was a bit surprised when my buddy said, did he say 100% trump would keep powell? that was news to me. we will see because i know donald trump is frustrated with powell but don't forget, dana, that donald trump is the one who appointed powell. >> but should they meet? >> on the other hand, every president and i shouldn't say every president but it's been pretty routine that the presidents would meet with the federal reserve chairman to talk about the condition of the economy. >> steve cortes, you agree? >> what's important here, it's routine for presidents, by the way, to ...

He's going to structure his business. he put out all this paper how he was going to do it. it was a dog and pony show. none of the structures he put up were satisfying with conflicts of interests. that's not what it ended up being about. it ended up being about the dirty dossier. he used that to his advantage. another one of these other here. now he's in a fight with john lewis. mentioned the people he's in a fight w he was in a fight with the pope, john mccain. he's in a fight with a lot of sort of sacred cow people you're not supposed to get in a fight with, and he wins. i agree with you we'...