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Parameters, you know not look at this the way that biden, they called it a gaffe in the beginning, they say biden was looking at this, in terms of a major or minor incursion, we really know, is they were planning, trying to predict that this would be a minor incursion, they could brush it off without having to do anything, no, we need to control the things that we can control and be strong in the face of all of this none is acceptable -- it is not rationale. if we try to rational news it, putins that then succeed. trey: proposed transfer of jets from poland to ukraine, it was -- did u.s. not w...

Parameters, you know not look at this the way that biden, they called it a gaffe in the beginning, they say biden was looking at this, in terms of a major or minor incursion, we really know, is they were planning, trying to predict that this would be a minor incursion, they could brush it off without having to do anything, no, we need to control the things that we can control and be strong in the face of all of this none is acceptable -- it is not rationale. if we try to rational news it, putins that then succeed. trey: proposed transfer of jets from poland to ukraine, it was -- did u.s. not w...

Occurred on wednesday. >> we saw this happen once before back in 2001. there was an intercept of a u.s. spy plane that was flying near some chinese islands and the plane essentially had a midair collision with one of these fighter plains the chinese had send up. the american plane then had to land. are we getting at the point where they're going to start once again intercepting u.s. military aircraft? >> they probably will do so. because essentially what the chinese have done as you pointed out, is trying to close off internuncial air ppspace. they have $5.3 trillion in commerce a year, and th...