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Airplane, we're scouring as they have been with planes and search vehicles of every type, nothing so far. why make the conclusion that -- the definitive conclusion it went down here? >> yeah, again, i don't think you can. i think it's the most likely explanation. and i'm with michael on the time line issues, because there's no real way to tell who did what when if acars was off. i don't know where they're getting all that information from. >> even what he's talking about in terms of the waves, the different waves and the analysis in terms of the signals going up to the satellite, do you agree ...

Airplane, we're scouring as they have been with planes and search vehicles of every type, nothing so far. why make the conclusion that -- the definitive conclusion it went down here? >> yeah, again, i don't think you can. i think it's the most likely explanation. and i'm with michael on the time line issues, because there's no real way to tell who did what when if acars was off. i don't know where they're getting all that information from. >> even what he's talking about in terms of the waves, the different waves and the analysis in terms of the signals going up to the satellite, do you agree ...