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>> yeah, i think one of the things that democrats are intended to do on wednesday is to get this off to a slow start so that it does not look to those who are paying attention like democrats are ramming this thing through before christmas. so, wednesday you will see, you know, it's going to be a slow walk through the constitution. what is impeachment? why do we have it? what constitutes high crimes and misdemeanors? and is what the president did km kmi kmis rate with that standard? and i think a lot of people will click off the television because it's not going to be exciting. but what democra...

Haven't tuned in. i think at each stage of this process, alex, there is going to be escalating public attention. and even though the intelligence committee hearings didn't move the needle all that much in terms of public opinion, we've seen that opinion public has shifted over a number of months. and as we get to the house floor, when they vote on articles, and then the senate trial, i think that's when people who have not tuned in will have an opportunity to do so. and if democrats are going to succeed, they're going to need to lay out clearly and in easy ways for the public to understand exa...

Exhaust everybody by creating chaos. i mean, giuliani said when asked by a reporter what his goal was, and it was, he said, to disrupt the world. and i think that's what the two of them are attempting to do. you know, when he was named cybersecurity czar by trump, i expected him to go around the world and trade access to trump for retainers. so, none of this surprises me. >> sobering, david freelander and ken friedman. guys, thank you very much for the conversation. i look forward to talking to you both again. >> thank you. the coming deadlines on impeachment and the decisions that could def...

On friday? the nasdaq had the best november, gaining 4.5%. the dow and s&p 500 each gaining about 3.5%. well, next wednesday's house judiciary hearings are now reportedly seen as the democrats', quote, one final shot to shore up public support for impeachment. according to politico, democrats agree that impeaching the president is exactly what our constitution prescribes to prevent corruption and abuse of executive power, but they also acknowledge that, quote, public sentiment might be impossible to move in the weeks before an anticipated historic house vote on impeaching this president. wit...

That i have drafted that deals with things that happen to people when they're in debt. and then on the other side, in the more urban parts of my congressional district, there are people who are saying, you know, vote for impeachment, don't worry about reading anything, just vote. but i think that more people come up to me and say we can't allow the president to get away with this than anybody else. but i'm hearing all kinds of things. >> so, for those people who say that, is there an appetite for a long, drawn-out impeachment battle or not? >> well, i'm not so sure, but i mean, impeachment fat...