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Mentioned in the president's new messaging is the 99% occupy wall street, and the president has not come out and said he owes any certain amount of debt in terms of messaging to the occupy movement, but to what degree do you think the white house listened to that, and that was influential in crafting this newer, sort of leaner, meaner, fighting machine message? >> look, i think the argument completely changed from the summer, in which it was all about being stuck in a congress that was dysfunctional, endless negotiations, and all about dealing with the debt, to coming into the fall and talking...

Those tax returns, i went out and earned. >> i went out and earned it, unlike the -- >> it is blue-collar. and it is the message that folks in michigan and across this country can relate to every day. everything that's in my bank account, i earned. it wasn't given to me, it didn't just appear because there were extra dollars sitting there. that is a very powerful message, and the romney campaign had better been better than smart in how they go after this. because it will blow up in their faces. >> but, michael, it's also a liberal message. i mean, it is nodding towards occupy and a lot of othe...

Weeks ago, i think would have been unthinkable. i think it's interesting today that we have gm announcing its profits, the highest in its 103-year history, this against the backdrop of mitt romney saying in 2008, don't do this auto bailout. i wonder how much people in michigan, whether that's something that sways them, you know, towards him. and i guess, my contention is probably, it does a good job of undermining his economic message in terms of, i'm a business guy, i know how to run companies, i know how to run countries, and one of the biggest decisions that i came out against turned out to...