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Environment. >> and what was the motivation for the use of fear and force? >> it was based on fear and ethnicity. >> are you aware of the perception of many about how the power and the discretion at i.c.e. is being used to enforce the laws? and do you see any parallels? >> i do not see any parallels between officers and agents -- >> i'm talking about perception. >> i do not see a parallel. >> sean: fox news correspondent at large, geraldo rivera is with us. i will start with you, and i will concede that the first wave of people, about 500 or thousand tomorrow, and many more are following. let'...

Problem to try to put forth a solution while democrats were in control of the house in the white house, and the congress. but it was the democrats who do not want a solution. republicans want a solution. one other quick thing, i.c.e. is not in the business of fighting perception. they are in the business of dealing with reality. and the reality is, our southern border is on the verge of an invasion, and that's what they are trying to fight. it has nothing to do with perception. and for kamala harris to talk about, this is perception, she's absolutely wrong, number one. and number two, percepti...

Ethnicity. >> the perception of many come about how the power and discretion at i.c.e. is being used to enforce the laws, and do you see any parallels? >> i do not see any parallels between officers and agents. >> i'm talking about agents? >> are you aware that there is a perception? and, what you just saw was beyond despicable. to be that patronizing, frankly idiotic and utterly disrespectful, they put their lives on the line i guess every single solitary day, which is shameful. how many are injured or killed

That iss a danger to every american. we see what they are doing with the fence, this was on the mexican border -- not the fence -- knocked to the fence down and ran across the border. this is the point. we cannot have this fear that as you agree with me, a portable -- but att some point, how is it possible that we had a party during the obama years, the democratic party sounding like donald trump today andg now thy are comparing it, our brief law enforcement to the klan or there is a perception that they are like the klan? >> let me start there, we agree, shame on senator harris, someone with ...

Criminals are immigrating into that population living here. that's a danger to every american. we see what they are doing to the fence. they knocked the fence down and rest across the border. this is the point, we cannot have this here. you agree with me, a border wall, but at some point, how is it possible that we had a party during the obama years, democratic party sounding like donald trump today and now comparing it our brave law enforcement to the clan, or there is a perception that they are like the clan? >> let me start there. shame on senator harris, someone with great experience and o...