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Today that i read when is saudi arabia going to come out of the closet and join israel against iran do you think that we're getting close to that point well this is already going on though i don't think the saudi arabia will dare a direct military confrontation with iran on the rain in territory. a couple of months ago you and i have been sitting in the same studio and we've been discussing this scenario would easily be happening now i think it was last november exactly right we were close to such a scenario when saudi arabia was taking the initiative that time the israelis did not want to be ...

Right we were close to such a scenario when saudi arabia was taking the initiative that time the israelis did not want to be don't want to fight the saudi war at least not publicly but at the moment yes we see very close coordination by not only by saudi arabia israel in the united states also the united arab emirates was somehow behind the lines part of this and but it again i don't think that saudi arabia and iran but escalated direct military confrontation over the persian gulf at the moment everybody is fine with with fighting proxy wars in syria and this is there's a field where they clai...

At the moment, we have a baseline. i don't think that's the issue. if the verification according to our national security people is good at the moment. the problem is that then you have the iranians revolved and terrorism, you have them at developing missiles that they shouldn't be developing and shipping not only money but armaments into the middle east. >> katie: the point is is not only about redoing the deal. it's about punishing iran for bad behavior. the nuclear deal was supposed to improve their behavior, it's gotten worse. they tried to take over territory, fighting proxy wars, using h...

Fighting proxy wars in yemen, proxy wars in the american press. i mean, it is everywhere you can look, this sort of battle. and the forces that are the most anti-iran are very aligned with jared kushner. we have reporting about attempts to essentially co-opt, to possibly use investment opportunities. do you have concerned essentially they're watching a sort of successful operation by a foreign government to push the u.s. in one direction? >> well, listen, it's hard to imagine this administration being any more in the pocket of saudi arabia. they have given them an absolute blank check in the r...

Real investment. the western companies coming and building new factories, creating jobs for well-educated young iranians who really are hungry for them, that hasn't happened. and then finally the fact that the iranian regime continues to have this revolutionary rhetoric about overturning regimes in the region. its fighting proxy wars in yemen and syria, to some extent in lebanon. finally it seems to have made ordinary iran yans at home to think enough. we're spending money abroad on adventures. let's start spending more money at home. it's a theme that's familiar to americans and so some exten...