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Or death situation. and that's why we have much more -- much longer track of the morale and ability to resist. plus we do really hope for support that is coming up, and we do really hope that internally, russia will start to destabilize and collapse. there will be a major -- there will be major protests planned for the sunday afternoon, i think, 2:00 p.m. in all russian cities where people who are against the war, against putin, who don't want to suffer all the economic hells that putin is putting the country through, they are coming out. i don't know how many people would be there. and i real...

Country. we also have gary back to discuss what he believes putin's next move may be. ♪ energy is everywhere... even in a little seedling. which, when turned into fuel, can help power a plane.

>> translator: the work on the logistics is in progress. we are developing routes for many cities. of course we cannot exactly trust the russian federation because its current tactics is aimed at spreading panic among people. this is achieved by destroying the civil infrastructure and evacuation points, limiting people's ability to get local benefit such as food, drink, and medical help. we believe this is where we need help from the international humanitarian organization, as they can take the role of a mediator and ensure the agreement from both sides is kept when it comes to organizing the ...

Extraordinary insurgencies if putin is successful in this. >> when you left, you -- you walked across -- you ended up having to walk across the border like a lot of people. i mean, the -- i assume when you're stuck in that long line of cars and decided to just -- this is the way we've got to go? >> yeah, we had the luxury of being able to abandon a rented vehicle on the side of the road. so many of the -- almost all -- i mean, this was a startling thing to me. it was mostly women and children, some in groups and some just a mother and their child, almost all of those cars. in some cases, the f...

You being there. joining us now, russian prodemocracy leader. he recently tweeted this about the war. there is no waiting this out. this isn't chess. there is no draw, no stalemate. either putin destroys ukraine and hits nato with a greater catastrophe or putin falls in russia. he cannot be stopped with weakness. gary, you see that as the only path forward in your mind. you really don't think there's anything that can stop him in ukraine by ukrainians just by themselves? >> we don't know. ukrainians offered resistance. and what we're seeing now is putin's wrath. he's willing to conquer ukrai...