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Midterm elections and into the future. some in the senate recognize do or die nature of the moment. >> if i have to choose between democracy and a senate rule, that's a pretty easy call i think. i think this issue is so tran senn dent that it deserves a solution because otherwise, you know, we're sunk. this democracy is fragile and it's under attack. >> two of his democratic colleagues in the senate, manchin and sinema, don't see it that way. they remain opposed to eliminated or even carving out certain pieces of legislation from the filibuster. president biden has been quiet on the filibuster...

Year, which is to get vaccinated. and he's still battling conspiracy theories. he's still battling distrust from the public. we saw that deadlines were missed over the summer in terms of vaccination goals. and so people are honestly just tired at this moment. fortunately we have the fda approval of the vaccine. one of the vaccines, which hopefully will support people going out and getting vaccinated. but right now morale is just really low around this issue. and so when he gives this speech, he has to restore confidence and a sense that his administration actually has a hold on this thing and ...

Through on the for the people act. so whatever happens in this first vote, on tuesday, they've got to keep moving forward. >> can i ask you to weigh in on the filibuster question, where you stand on that? >> i don't think we should have a filibuster in this country. it's nowhere written in the constitution. it's holding up important legislation. i was watching your earlier segment about the infrastructure bill, economic packages that can make it a lot easier for people to find better jobs that pay higher wages, we need, he would not as democrats, not as republicans, we as americans, need to de...

I think we're going to see the differences being aired in real time. with his fellow democratic senators. which for them at least right now is a step forward at least towards getting to that republican filibuster and then taking it from there. >> so, jackie, i mean, one thing that also surfaced this week, there was some leaked audio of joe manchin talking to a group of donors where he did address the filibuster question. and seemed to express some openness to potentially changing it which is, of course, at odds with his public comments on the matter. what role do you think this voting rights p...

Employers can hire up. will that push prices up. >> this brings us back to the filibuster question. and the ways in which you have -- part of the problem is look, the first rescue plan wasn't paid for. that's easier sell than this. you have to raise taxes. including corporate. and guess what, corporate america is not like yes, please. they are working over congress to not do that. it's easier to tax cut than raise them. you have the threshold that republicans can wield in a add venn ta jous way. >> raising a corporate rate and raising taxes on the wealthy. that polls better than what you're us...