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File at home? he doesn't have it. it doesn't belong to him. it is just phone records. and phone numbers that have been called and length of calls that are controlled by the phone companies. so to have a violation of the first amendment. there actually has to have some expectation of privacy. the supreme court has been very clear about this. you don't have it with those records. because they don't belong to you. the nsa was invading your home and actually taking away your filing cabinets of course it would be unconstitutional. but that's not what we're talking about. people like the judge and r...

Bad guys and find them sooner than gathering all information from everybody all the time. >> all right. it is one hot debate and, judge, you always been all over this and we thank you for your time. >> a pleasure andrea. here with more reaction is the editor of "national review," rich lowry. all right. you have been all over this. you disagree with the senator and the judge. why? >> well the next time you see the judge, ask him where the meta data is. he does he hold it in the wallet a file at home. the fact is he doesn't have it because it doesn't belong to him. it is just phone records and...

Being rods that were used in filing cabinets, older filing cabinets that slid through the drawers of the filing cabinets from the front to the rear. >> but the sign wasn't easy to see, which is why harry missed it the night before. the second ransom note told harry to proceed to another location several miles from there where the fbi found a third note telling harry to proceed to an abandoned church three miles away. that's where the trail stopped. >> you could observe harry traveling through the countryside there. he could also watch for surveillance units and police who might be following hi...

>> the rods we recognized as being rods that were used in filing cabinets, older filing cabinets that slid through the drawers of the filing cabinets from the front to the rear. >> but the sign wasn't easy to see, which is why harry missed it the night before. the second ransom note told harry to proceed to another location several miles from there where the fbi found a third note telling harry to proceed to an abandoned church three miles away. that's where the train stopped. >> you could observe harry traveling through the countryside there. he could also watch for surveillance units and pol...

They found a second ransom note attached to a metal rod with a crepe paper flag. >> the rods we recognized as being rods that were used in filing cabinets, older filing cabinets that slid through the drawers of the filing cabinets from the front to the rear. >> but the sign wasn't easy to see, which is why harry missed it the night before. the second ransom note told harry to proceed to another location several miles from there where the fbi found a third note telling harry to proceed to an abandoned church three miles away. that's where the trail stopped. >> he could observe harry traveling t...