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Sufian bin qumu. martha: very interesting. say, catherine, where the report that showed increasing al qaeda presence in libya, who generated that? was that cia? >> reporter: we have several right here. one produced, this is page 10, july 2012, the dia produced a report that discussed rather the founding of ansar al sharia. it is not worthy here this section if you come back to me one second, this section of the senate report is heavily redacted which means it remains classified. right below that it describes how in july 2012 the cia produced a report, entitled, libya, al qaeda establishing a s...

Armored car and a huge cadre of security officials if he knew that al qaeda was going to be looking for revenge because they have a habit of not liking to be assassinated? this is all going on alleged by jack murphy and brandon webb in libya at the time of 9/11, 2012. and this whole operation comes down on that day, and these guys defy orders and try to protect the ambassador, who we find out was killed from asphyxiation, according to these guys because when they stormed the gate, they went through a safe house. they put smoke bombs underneath or what is and basically died. >>gretchen: they al...

Whole cover up with this movie being the cause, i really think part of the cause may have been that there was a gun running operation going on in benghazi leaving libya, going to turkey and distributing arms to the rebels. martha: when you brought that up, senator, excuse me nor piping in. when you brought that up in the hearing with hillary clinton she looked shocked. she said i have no idea what you're talking about, and we were just talking about jennifer griffin who said perhaps the tail end of your question wasn't included that gave it a little more context. >> well the thing is, is that ...

Does that make sense to you? >> yeah, and i don't doubt that they tried to do everything they could, but he hit the nail on the head, time and distance, which begs the question, who made the decision not to have our ac130s closer, our f-16s closer. i think he does make a point that they can't always be there exactly when needed. however, the other command decision that secretary clinton made was why did we put someone into a situation like this without adequate military protection? i never would have had an embassy and still would not have an embassy in libya unless it were under the complete ...

Attack. they weren't even called into session. i'll ask panetta why that is so. no one has asked john brennan anything about benghazi. he's in the chain of command to do something about it. it's dumbfounding the lack of scrutiny this administration has had regarding benghazi. martha: we know hillary clinton was basically up all night trying to get help in the area from the libyan government. we don't know where yawn brennan was, we don't know where the president was during those hours and we know john brennan did not choose to appear on the sunday shows to explain what happened. there is a que...