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Money that is connected to either the chinese or the russian governments because these are questions that -- these are the last questions they want to answer. it's why trump is squacared of talking about his tax returns. it's why he avoids the question of indebtedness with carefully parsed answer. the fact that the fbi is involved, it's bad news. >> and fin sin, the unit in the treasury that is going to turn over documents. again in this ironic way, the decision by donald trump, ivanka, and jared to not fully completely divest, right? for all of them to retain different kinds of ways that they...

Suspicious financial transactions from what's called fin sin, is financial intelligence hub of treasury. so i think they're marrying up deutsche bank data and treasury department data, which i think portends bad news if there's anything there, ala the manafort indictment for the trump businesses, as well. so those are the three big areas, if there was time was left, i would ask him, how does he shoot elephants and sleep at night. >> michael zeldin, appreciate it. and just clarity, for our viewers, that deutsche bank reporting that you mentioned, not confirmed by cnn and denied by the white hou...