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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20161226:03:28:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20161226:03:28:00

>> here you have a woman who stands in the pinnacle of power. and understands what power looks like. it, to me, is fascinating that a person from that vantage point would see jesus as the one worthy of her life, her allegiance, and her worship. >> this was a way of getting in closer to really understanding the bible and to really entering into the spirit of jesus. >> there was something about knowing that he actually walked here, that he talked here, where she's standing. you realize that this is not just a myth. jerusalem is not a made-up city. jesus is not a made-up person. it's an incredibl...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20161226:02:36:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20161226:02:36:00

>> he understands what's happening. he's helping jesus. he knows that because of what he has to do, he's going to be hated forever. >> judas is doing what jesus wants him to do. look, god sent jesus to die for the sins of mankind. someone has to betray him. someone has to fulfill this mission. jesus is saying, i have to die on the cross in order to do what i was sent here to do. >> judas was not the evil figure, this nasty traitor that we've often depicted him as in the history of christianity. >> judas, the quintessential traitor is actually the hero? this is hugely shocking.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20161226:02:39:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20161226:02:39:00

Receives his vision. >> master! >> the biggest problem i think in the original translation was this line here. so in the coptic here, jesus calls judas the 13th dimon. and dimon was translated in the original translation as the word "spirit." >> why do you try so hard? >> but in fact, this word means demon. >> this single word changes the whole interpretation. >> i have seen a great vision. you 13th demon. >> so the judas that i saw when i did my own reconstructive work, he's not a hero. judas is a fallen angel. he's a demon.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20161226:02:28:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20161226:02:28:00

It tells a new story of the last days of jesus christ. it's a dialogue between jesus and judas. >> it is the only known copy of a text originally written in the second century a.d. the actual author of the gospel of judas remains unknown. >> it's not the gospel according to judas. so all the other gospels that we have are always according to one disciple or the other. but this is not necessarily judas' view. this is a text that's about judas. >> the gospel uses the familiar scene of the last supper to paint a very different picture of judas and jesus from that in the bible. >> in the gospels o...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20161226:02:15:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20161226:02:15:00

Where the last supper took place. when jesus and his disciples meet for the last supper, the tension is really building up. through the week that they've been in jerusalem, there have been increasing conflicts with authorities. something big was about to happen. >> i think there's a real sense of foreboding at the last supper, the way that it's portrayed in the gospels. >> there's that moment in the meal, this intimacy, to eat a meal with somebody is to be family with them. jesus announces that one of you,