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How Christianity became a mass religious movement and spread worldwide

Christianity, which started out as a small Near Eastern mystery cult, became a mass religious movement mostly because Christianity allied with the Roman Empire.

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Seem most shut down, at least for me as a christian, i can only assume some might have to do with the history of christianity opposition to ideologies, but again we are getting into a different territory, not with extreme christian or conservative language, more everyday language, leadership institute, campus reform reported the university was deeming similar words harmful, words like police or picnic as harmful. i think they are getting to a point where they have gone too far and need to walk it back, they should have walked it back a long time ago, it is ridiculous at this point. todd: all the books in my own home that need to be banned because they contain the word bunny and most books are from my two-year-old. i will have to tell the little one, we got to get rid of the books, they reference bunnies and michigan state doesn t want

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 13:00:00

Weeks, how i grew up as a southern baptist, and actually it seems strange to say now but baptists, until 1979 yes. let s be clear, almost 2000 years after jesus s birth found religion on abortion and became pro-life. as i said, mainstream evangelical churches were pro-choice like after the beatles broke up. and i say even after the beatles broke up. this just happened. and not only did it just happen, and the grand sweep of the history of christianity, it happened in somehow because of what paul wyrick and jerry fallwell, and what conservative ministers were trying to do to

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 13:01:00

Separate voters from the southern baptist, jimmy carter. suddenly abortion went from not being an issue at all to being the central issue. it is such a clear perversion and again if you just look at the history of christian theology over 2000 years, how did it become the center piece without these church leaders who were pro-choice when i was in high school, without them being called to account to to answer for how they suddenly figured out 2,000 years after jesus s birth, despite he never brought the topic up. well, you said it so well. it was an issue that did not exist in the history of christianity. and yet 50 years ago suddenly it appears on the stage as the dividing issue. and that is the result of a very strategic process of a group of people coming together to decide what would be a wedge issue that

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0 weeks, how i grew up as a southern baptist, and actually it seems strange to say now but baptists, until 1979 yes. let s be clear, almost 2000 years after jesus s birth found religion on abortion and became pro-life. as i said, mainstream evangelical churches were pro-choice like after the beatles broke up. and i say even after the beatles broke up. this just happened. and not only did it just happen, and the grand sweep of the history of christianity, it happened in somehow because of what paul wyrick and jerry fallwell, and what conservative ministers were trying to do to separate voters from the southern baptist, jimmy carter. suddenly abortion went from not being an issue at all to being the central issue. it is such a clear perversion and again if you just look at the history of christian theology over 2000 years, how did it become the center piece without these church leaders who were pro-choice when i was in high school, without them being called to account to to answer for how they suddenly figured out 2,000 years after jesus s birth, despite he never brought the topic up. well, you said it so well. it was an issue that did not exist in the history of christianity. and yet 50 years ago suddenly it appears on the stage as the dividing issue. and that is the result of a very strategic process of a group of people coming together to decide what would be a wedge issue that we could begin po peel off southern baptist from the democratic party, peel off progressive religious people who on some issue that could get them in their moral gut. and abortion came to the fore as that issue. and it was literally orchestrated and made up in a room full of people planning and strategizing how to make this the thing that people would live and die for. along with the lgbtq rights which would follow within the next 15 years. you know, there is an article i read just the other day, in 1969 in evangelical publications saying arguing against the catholics for their position on abortion saying that the exact same things we re saying today, namely that this is not in the bible. it is not in christian history. and their using it for their own political purposes. this was coming from the southern baptist itself which describes what they are doing today. thank you both very much for your contributions this morning. thank you for being on. it is just past 9:00 a.m. on the east coast. 6:00 a.m. out west. we start the fourth hour of morning joe with breaking news from overseas. former japanese prime minister shinzo abe has died after he was shot twice sat a campaign event earlier today in japan. assassinated. abe had just started a speech in the western city of narra when a gunman opened fire with what appeared to be a home made gun. he was airlifted to a hospital where he later died. officials say the suspected gunman has been taken into custody. let s go live to beijing. joining us now, nbc news correspondent janis mackey frayer. what is the latest and the reaction in japan? reporter: well, former japanese prime minister shinzo abe was assassinating giving a speech on the campaign trail. shot twice. doctors say he was hit in the neck and the chest. he was airlifted to hospital where they tried to resuscitate him but he died a few hours later. what is striking is that the assassination was captured on video. you could hear the two shots and from another angle see smoke billowing above the crowd. the suspected gunman, 41-year-old was tackled at the scene. said to have a military background and police seized what they described as a home made shotgun. police just having a news conference confirming that their investigation is now shifted to a murder investigation. they have 90 personnel working on it and they say that they would like to send their heartfelt condolences to the family of the prime minister. and this attack is profoundly shocking in japan. a country where gun violence is almost nonexistent because so few people have guns to own and to buy a firearm in japan. a person needs to pass through 12 steps including a written exam, a gun safety course, a doctor s note, as well as an extensive background check. and also because shinzo abe was a political giant. he s credited with lifting up japan s economy, also with revitalizing diplomacy, meeting with dozens of leaders, including u.s. presidents. he was japan s most visible politician. the current primary fumio casheda had tears in his eyes when he called the attack barbaric and despicable. janice mackeyer, thank you. thank you for being with us. we do appreciate it. let bring in the president of the council on foreign relations richard haass. obviously you met with former prime minister. you could explain to our viewers just what a massive presence he was in japanese politics? you know, the fact that he was the first prime minister of japan who was born after world war ii tells you something. we often talk of the post world war ii war and he took japan into the post, post world war ii. he understood the obligations because of the past and its aggression. but his goal was to build acceptance in japan, in the region and in the world of a japan that would begin to play a larger role. people forget that this is a country when he was prime minister that had the world s second largest economy. now it is number three behind the u.s. and china. it is one of the top five militaries and hi goal was to basically say, yes, i know we sinned and we did terrible things in the past but this is a different world. this is a different japan. we the japanese have to be willing to take on larger responsibilities. you in the region, you in the world, you have to be willing to accept a more active, more influential japan. he was transformational. he didn t achieve everything he wanted. he didn t get the constitution formally changed. but he moved his country. he move the country. and you re right, he didn t get everything changed. and while again he was the longest serving prime minister, obviously to make such a dramatic break from the past, a past that his grandfather and father were a part of it. obviously controversial. so while he was again had a giant influence on japanese politics over the past 20 years. also, controversial in certain ways, right? well it is one we haven t talked about which is at home his idea at economics was to give japanese women a larger role. they have not been percentage wise very active in the work force. so abe nomics was described as women nomics. he wanted to transform japanese society. and he wanted to give women a larger role and then regionally in foreign policy, it is interesting. there won t be a lot of tears shed today in china. just the other week the former prime minister, mr. abe talks about the need to say that japan and others would go to taiwan s help if china attacked taiwan. that again was a very big idea. not wildly accepted. was controversial and indeed one of the things that i bet the japanese authorities are looking into is whether in any way his foreign policy views might have triggered this gunman to assassinate him. richard haass, thank you very much for jumping on the show this morning. we appreciate your insight. we do have some more breaking news here at home. the new jobs numbers just released within the last hour. they show 372,000 jobs were added in june. that is more than expected. and the unemployment rate remained at 3.6% for the month. it really surprising. let s bring in cnbc correspondent dom chu. people keep trying to push this economy into a recession. but it will not go quietly into that dark night. this, i just have to say, and i know you cover it every day, but just as a spectator from afar, this is an extraordinary, extraordinarily resilient economy considering all of the factors that are weighing it down right now. it doesn t matter, joe and mika to your point, which seats your in, court side or in the cheap ones, there is nothing in the economic data at least on the jobs front that would indicate there is anything like a recession going on right now. despite the fact that there have been numerous calls from many parts of not just wall street but main street about it. now there is nuance and subtlety. the economic data with the jobs report is backward looking. we ve had to counts it in the past. so this is already done and dusted. the economic data that many refer to as referring to a recession is some of the poll or survey data, the forward-looking stuff. do you feel as though the economy is bad. that is where some of the recessionary talk is playing out in the data so to speak. you mentioned the numbers on the headline for the nonfarm payrolls and those are very strong and despite what you re seeing in the stock market, which is the boards that we re showing you, it does indicate a pullback in the markets overall. the reason why you re seeing that is more because of the idea that this does indicate that the economy is strong enough to reinforce the inflationary narrative, right. this idea that price increases are still there. to that point. i want to give you a couple of more statistics to tell you more about the inflationary story because it front and center for many americans. average hourly earnings on a year-over-year basis did rise by over 5%. 5.1%. not keeping pace with the inflation data but it does tell us the cost of goods and wages are going higher so that could have a real effect on things. and the stubbornness in labor force participation and where economists will say this is still weak. not as many americans are actually working or trying to work in the work force. joe and mika and willie, i will point out that the labor force participation rate was 62.2% so that is lower than it was last month and still kind of hovering below where we were pre-covid and the underemployment rate was 6.7%. again, lower than so i guess it is a mixed picture but generally markets are positive on this. economy is still going strong, guys. cnbc senior correspondent dominic chu, thank you very much. and let s bring in eugene daniels to get reaction there. jonathan lemire has the first question for you. gene, how are you. obviously a good jobs report. one surely welcomed in the building behind you. some other good news, we ve had a solid week of gas prices trending down. we don t know if that trend will continue. but aides are quick to point out some progress there as well. but yet as dom just noted, sentiments among the country, people think the economy is bad even though it isn t that bad. how is the white house going to fight that. that is right. on the gas prices, i was talking to an aide yesterday and he was talking about mix between what people are seeing at the pump, the prices are lower and what the gas companies are actually receiving in and paying for gas and oil. so their frustration continues. their fight continues with oil and gas companies. on how much their charging and how the consumers are bearing the brunt of that and the prices, the lower isn t on pace in their mind and so that is one. and americans are seeing that a little bit of that benefit at the pump. but as you said, they re not feeling that way. and i think that is one thing that white house has struggled with quite a bit and realizing how to talk to people s fears and concerns while touting a strong economy that they have that dominic just ran through. i was talking to an aide as these numbers were coming in and they were digesting in this realtime and what they said is that they feel like it kind of hit the right notes. it was strong but not too strong. so it will continue to make people feel concerned about the heating of the economy but not too light to scare folk into thinking that the recession is coming right now. and i think she said this is not a recession, what a recession looks like but it complicates what the fed is going to do next month when their expecting to raise those prices. yeah, it really is. there are so many counter veiling forces pulling this economy in so many different directions. it is going to be fascinating to see how the white house responds. eugene daniels, thank you very much and have a great weekend. and you know, jonathan lemire, i wanted to go back to just the white house and the frustration that they must feel in the white house. consumer sentiment obviously is so critically important. it determines how people are going to respond. but you look at unemployment right now, 3.6%. you know what it was in 1984 when ronald reagan campaigned on morning in america, that the economy was strong and robust. unemployment was twice as much. it was 7.2% in 1984. here you ve got, again, another great jobs report, you ve got gas prices going down, i know it doesn t matter to people who are paying at the pump. but just the reality is gas prices are lower in america than they are in most western democracies. inflation is lower than it is in great britain and other democracies. a lot of western democracies. again, it is just a question that has to be frustrating for the white house to answer. yeah. you can t say the word inflation around a white house aide without them adding the world global in front of it. they want to make sure that everyone knows this is not a unique american problem. it is better here than in most places. they are not celebrating yet. but gas prices are a particular fixation for the white house. ron klain starts his day checking the price. that is the fir thing he does i m told. and so certainly this is a good sign, too. but they are frustrated. because they feel like this is still a good economy. but the american people don t seem to think that. and that is why to our earlier conversation, so much of this is still about messaging and it is about trying to get through to the american people that hey, things aren t that bad and we feel like inflation may have peaked even, we re not out of the woods yet but starting to make progress. you re looking right now, 3.6% unemployment rate. just historically, it is extremely low rate. yeah. again, twice as much when ronald reagan won 49 states saying he turned around the economy from 7.2%. wages as dom reported up 5.1%. average hourly wages up 5.1%. but right now the only thing americans are focused on obviously inflation, inflation, inflation, inflation at the pump, inflation at the grocery store, gas prices will continue to come down until americans are refocused on some of the other points. coming up on morning joe, as the highland park community mourns sh we re hearing from the suspect s family, from the first responders who ran toward the danger, when the gunfire broke out. plus wnba star brittney griner pleads guilty in a russian court. foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell joins us with the latest. morning joe will be right back. h the latest morning joe will be right back

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