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A new documentary of the life of journalism icon ben bradlee is set to premier. the film explores the role bradlee played in guiding "the washington post" during the watergate scandal among several pivotal moments in american politics. joining me, john madge i don't, director of the newspaper man, the life and times of ben bradlee, sally quinn, ben's wife of 43 years, a "washington post" columnist and editor and chief of the blog. author of the book "finding magic." for for being here. >> thank you. >> sally, i'm curious to your reaction about what's goings-on, the president's attacks on the m...

Tricks of this town. you decided who was in and -- >> was? >> okay. her new book, "finding magic," it's about spirituality of a kind -- i felt in the peace corps, it wasn't going to church spiritualism, it was a feeling of really happy connection to your world you're living in. i know what you mean by this spiritual thing. it's lower case christian. >> it's christianity with with a c. >> it's just really good. and i think she's a great person with a hell of a story here, and a great read. she's a great writer. most importantly that. when i come back, i want to talk about the trump watch toni...

Welcome back to "hardball." people think about think about washington, d.c., spirtituality isn't the first word that comes to mind. in a new book, "finding magic," journalist sally quinn explores what the word faith means to her and describing what it's been like to live in washington, d.c. through watergate, vietnam, and 9/11. she writes, washington is all about power, and seeking power, eachb makes people, even good people, do bad things. that's sally quinn talking. i'm joined now by sally quinn, always one of the most frightening people in washington. glamourous, yes, i'll give you that. bu...

And that's what i found, and i found that loving ben and taking care of ben was the most meaningful thing i could have done and it has given me, my book is called "finding magic" but it's brought magic into my life. >> is this something that, is this a journey that is part -- because i find -- there are different times in your life, and i think in my life, you go back and forth between the search for faith, looking for it, needing it, even as you question it? >> well, you know, when i -- when i was an atheist i was an angry atheist and basically thought i believed in god. that i didn't believe...