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Play -- hillary clinton lost a lot of e-mails and that hampered finding out information. in this case mueller is wise to say, make sure nothing disappears, that's part of the investigation. this is a broad scope of an investigation. wise to do but i wouldn't read a lot into it. >> that's what we do, alice! from the -- the political standpoint. talking purely political, the news we talked about also top of the hour. that "the washington post" and "new york times" reporting that the white house, the president, his staff, are looking to discredit. looking at ways to diskrez it bit -- discredit bo...

Counsel investigations in the '80s and the '90s and an investigation of -- a fact finding investigation om congress it itself would still be ine sense a partisan exercise made up of republicans or democrats and appointees of those parties. into helping your team or trying to get the other team which is not always conducive to finding out information. i'll pause there. >> let me ask a fuollow up. haven't they chosen the one guy who is physically almost the giant comey is and is a looming presence over american law, justice and the fbi? >> well, you know before the president fired comey, i didn'...

Who is very hard to intimidate or push around, should give us a measure of independence. but at the end of the day, if president trump wants to direct him to be fired, he can do so. and so that is one of the things that's going to be looming over this investigation that was not looming over independent counsel investigations in the '80s and the '90s. and of course an investigation, a fact-finding investigation from congress itself, or if they were to appoint a commission, would still be in some senses a partisan exercise, be made up of republicans and democrats or appointees of those parties, ...

Congress it itself would still be in some sense a partisan exercise made up of republicans or democrats and appointees of those parties. into helping your team or trying to get the other team which is not always conducive to finding out information. i'll pause there. >> let me ask a follow up. haven't they chosen the one guy who is physically almost the giant comey is and is a looming presence over american law, justice and the fbi? >> well, you know before the president fired comey, i didn't expect that to happen either. we are sort of in uncharted territory here and the sense of things that ...

Intervoen and tap and wire tap and use the tools that the more recent tools for finding out information. and apply those to a terrorist setting. now we had the opportunity to do so and that's why i voted for. >> how did abraham lincoln run over our civil rights. >> suspending habeas corpus, for example, probably the biggest thing, but the president was dealing with insurrection and i don't think if you look back in history, he did what he had to do to try to hold the union together. we're not in a situation like that where woof that kind of problem, but, we do have problems here in our home so...