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It's a pathetic excuse for his behavior, for something that he himself helped to create, this monstrosity. i'm still recovering from those hugs and kisses. >> reliving it cannot have been that much easier for capitol police sergeant aquilino gonell, d.c. metro police officer daniel hodges and michael fanone, and capitol police officer harry dunn. we invited congressman clyde and senator johnson to come on the program tonight. both declined. congresswoman stephanie murphy accepted. she's a democratic member of the committee and like everyone in that room owes a lot to the witnesses today. >> yo...

Because i know they're doing it in europe but you're not cdc director of europe which i'm sure you're plenty happy about, they're issuing health passes there, you can go to a disco or discotheque if you have a health pass. is that something that the cdc would ever lean into or perhaps advise here? >> you know, i think some communities are doing that. and that may very well be a path forward. i do want to sort of comment that in some fully vaccinate d ve venues, if they're unmasked and few people transmitting there as a fully vaccinated person it is possible to pick up disease. overall, it's so...

This advice but can't mandate at the federal level. those are all jurisdictional mandates. we are hoping that our advice will lead to more and more jurisdictions leaning in towards to get more people vaccinated. >> is your advice that local school districts should mandate vaccines for children 12 and older? >> that will be a state level and leads to state level laws. right now we have authorized vaccine. we don't have fully approved vaccines. i'm hoping that might be more viable when we have more fully approved vaccines. >> but if they were all vaccinated it would make things easier, wouldn't ...

Less than 40% of vaccinated people. so our lowest areas of vaccinated people are producing 80% of those red counties. so really important to understand that the vast majority is occurring in unvaccinated people, but we wanted people who are vaccinated to understood they could potentially pass this virus if they were one of those breakthrough infections. >> well, predominantly this is something coming from unvaccinated people to unvaccinated people, correct? >> for the most part, absolutely. >> so then you can understand the frustration in those of us who are vaccinated saying, why the hell do ...

Recommend? >> i think if we see more and more people who are vaccinated, our children are vaccinated, we have full vaccination in schools, we have full vaccination in teachers, all of those are documented, we have disease rates that are low, then we can start thinking about what -- how we can loosen up and, you know, not seeing clusters ands you breaks in these school systems. the thing that's most important to me through all of this is that our kids get back in school full-time in-person learning. and we're not there yet. we're far from there. i want our children to be safe. >> goals help. ca...