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Let's -- the three of us and thç audience will listen again to what the governor said. it sounds very clear to me that they're not talking about the afl-cio. it sounds to me like the governor is talking about finding troublemakers of his own to send into that crowd and cause trouble. but let's listen again to what the governor said on that phone call. >> what we were thinking about the crowds was planting some troublemakers. >> well, the only problem with -- because we thought about that. my only -- gut reaction to that would be right now the -- the lawmakers i've talked to have lawmakers i'v...

Entertaining, thinking about sending troublemakers into the crowd. is that something you discussed with the governor? >> we talked about afl-cio individuals that might be in wisconsin on saturday that may use those type of tactics to get some of the protesters agitated and some arrests. so i'm not sure exactly if the governor was referring to those -- >> well, let's stop, senator. let's -- >> or he was talking about some other -- >> senator, let's go back to exactly what the governor said. let's the three of us and the audience will listen again to what the governor said. it sounds very clear ...

Some of the protesters agitated and some arrests. so i'm not sure exactly if the governor was referring to those -- >> well, let's stop, senator. let's -- >> or he was talking about some other -- >> senator, let's go back to exactly what the governor said. let's the three of us and the audience will listen again to what the governor said. it sounds very clear to me that they're not talking about the afl-cio. it sounds to me like the governor is talking about finding troublemakers of his own to send into that crowd and cause trouble. but let's listen again to what the governor said on that phon...