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Ukraine is not really any closer to joining nato now than it was in 2014 when putin invaded ukraine the first time. it's questionable what exactly it is that president biden can do to stop putin from whatever it is he intends right now. i do think the scheduling of the january 10th talks between the united states and russia in geneva suggest at least over the next couple weeks there is a possibility of finding a path forward with putin. but what really worries me is that there's really a mismatch. putin is demanding things that's not within biden's power or the u.s.'s power to give. how does t...

Deployments and the like and that ukraine be permanently banned from ever joining nato, that that is a nonstarter. apparently they are responding, at least publicly, to some of the arms control proposals. >> we've been pretty clear since the russians first published their so-called draft treaty documents. that our strong sense of working negotiations like these is the highest likelihood of finding a path forward takes place when you don't negotiate on television and in public but behind closed doors. they've chosen a different tact. we've been quite clear we're not going to put lout of our pos...

And destruction that he's causing. he can end it today by sitting down with the ukrainians and finding a path forward here. deescalating by taking his troops out of the country and stopping this invasion that he's responsible for. >> martha: is that -- i want to go at this one more time. so what does success look like? does success -- what ukraine would say, what president zelensky would say, we're the front line here. so if you care about protecting nato, you have to make sure that putin does not achieve his goal of taking over and dominating ukraine. >> success looks like an invasion that is...

>> we need to check to see if cicadas did at that time, though, i don't know whether brood x was around or not. look, it feels like every step we take what happened yesterday all of this gets us one step closer to getting rid of the filibuster, it feels almost as if we have to go through all of this, but i found, you know, david just mentioned senator manchin and finding a path forward, just let's not forget that mitch mcconnell called, you know, manchin's proposal a stacey abrams bill to begin with. so that's like -- it's going to be hard for -- it's going to be very hard to find a path forwa...

Donald trump. it's not a coincidence that he's talking about pardoning himself and laying the predicate for that possibility as the walls are closi in on paul manafort. and that is why it is s outrageous that more republicans and more americans aren't saying how patently absurd it is that a president can pardon himself. obviously, a pardon is for a criminal act, at the end of the day. >> neera, i want to read from the charges here that show that paul manafort may have tried very hard to tamper, but didn't actually prove very proficient at tampering. the government confirmed that messages were ...