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their first amendment rights, the right to freedom of the press. but, no. instead, the media, for the most part, are falling right in line behind merchan and keeping their eye on the prize putting trump in jail. >> precisely because he is an ex-president and not actually go lightly because he is an an ex-president. hold trump accountable. and i don't think fines are going to do it. i think he needs to sit in a cell and ponder the consequences of trying to routinely undermine the rule of law and judiciary while the intimidating citizens part of this process. he should be put in a cell and contemplate his behavior. it's clear that the regime media is not entirely comfortable where this might end up juror number two, investment banker
teacher. my focus now is on making sure that our teacher is taken care of and has the support needed to navigate through the lasting effects of this incident. more bureaucratic the superintendent said she is recommending expulsion for the students. that kid should be hit with a felony assault charge. you want kids to stop doing this? guess what? you do this again you are going to jail automatic four years in federal prison or state prison for this. misdemeanor? be back in class whacking another teacher in two weeks. >> that's exactly what is going to happen is happening over and over again in our society where we have these criminals and that's what he is he is a criminal that he not being rehabilitated, the parents aren't being held accountable. parents should be held accountable. forced to go take anger management classes with their child. they should have to pay fines and these people should have to really face justice and it's not
i agree with nicole the fbi should step in and i will tell you why. take it out of the hands of alvin bragg who will turn around and cut them loose anyway because he picks and chooses what he wants to prosecute in new york city. then you have a group funded by sorrows and pay their bail and pay their fines so they can go out and continue doing the same things over and over. at which point we say enough is enough? i think today is that day. what we saw on the brooklyn bridge the other day was disgusting. all right question what at the desecration of our flag, burning our flag, and carrying a tourist to my terrorist flag and in plaf it is ridiculous. if you want to talk about flares, there are fire codes they can enforce as well and tack that on. but when you start putting people at risk not only from your actions of what you are saying and the inflammatory words you are using, but when you start blocking pedestrian traffic and commercial traffic and emergency vehicles cannot get there to respond to medical
judge with a big fu on his face. and he admired that deeply. he's already in recent days and recent re petedly throughout his career compared himself favorably to al capone, which would be bonkers except for the fact he says something bonkers every day. but he says this as a signal of what a bad actor is. least proud of being a bad actor. the order to saw shoe cause that the the prosecutors are adding to daily of the threats he's making to members of court, the judge, et cetera, i really do hope when they review this next week, that he brings the full weight of the law to bear on trump precise isly because he's an ex-president and not actually go lightly because he's ab ex-president, but he's even more incumbent on this court to hold trump accountable. i don't think fines are going to do it. i thus he needs to sit in a cell
information to the client. that gets a little dicey, but we use protective orders not infrequently, it sounds like judge merchan is not even willing to do that, and what i say is safety first. you know, the system needs to rise up and protect these witnesses. so as a courtesy, i absolutely agree. i would almost always give the defense notice of the order of call. that is who are the witnesses who we are expected to put on the stand tomorrow and the next day and the next day. it's the courteous thing to do, but safety first. so you know, and we continue for whatever reason nicolle, we're all talking about how fines won't mean anything to him. but you know, the law actually has a vehicle to hold a dangerous pretrial defendant accountable, and it's called pretrial detention. if there's clear and convining evidence that the defendant who's on release in a felony case presents a danger to the community or even one person in
purporting to describe somebody who might exist, but who according to christians reporting, doesn't actually exist, does not actually about a juror it does fall into a broader category of sort of talking about the jurors. and so i look, i think sarah, this is the extraordinarily difficult line that the judge is going to navigate in this case because the former president is going to always push the envelope in terms of his public statements. he does have first amendment rights. the judge does need to make sure that he stays in accordance with the gag or and doesn't threaten court personnel, doesn't threaten jurors, doesn't talk about them specifically but it's gonna be very, very difficult. monetary fines in my judgement would have to be an extraordinary amounts to actually matter and be a deterrent to the former president now those are really interesting points when to stick with the jury because you have mentioned that the integrity of course, of the trial depends on jury anonymity. we know one of the
couldn't say for some of the violations but we know increased fines do not work. it's two sets of fines. so he's already had not only one, but two bites of the apple. he's been given these warnings, so i do think that when you get to particularly juror, and effectiveness, that the prospect of some form of jail time, even if it's a timeout in a holding cell, it's something that i think in very short order is going to need to happen. but again, just to be clear, after the defense has been given ab opportunity to present any explanation as to what's going on. >> and let me just -- i ask because trump has shown us he's incapable of change. he had his strikes inside the courthouse. he never planned for that to be the only way to eliminate jurors. that's never the plan.
do you think there's conduct that could change that? >> i do, and here's what happens when defendants violate orders and they continue to violate orders. judges take it incrementally. the first violation is usually a stern warning. the second violation is fines, but when the fines come, the judges will generally say -- and i promise you, mr. defendant, if you do it again for a third time, you're going into a jail cell. i have a hard time imagining trump making it through this trial without landing in a jail cell. >> wow. >> we both said wow. >> i'd like to hear from glenn, do you think the judges are storing these up? i'd like to have a hearing now. >> there's seven, right? i think they added seven today to an existing list. so there's more than seven. >> so we're at almost, you know, a baker's dozen of violations of the gag order. glenn, is it a matter of time before you have a hearing on the gag order, or do you think he's waiting for these to stack up
himself has made the statement. you can't you can't sort of hide behind. oh, i use quotation marks or air quotes here on a truth social post so say that you did not by the gag order, had a judge has a lot of things under his purview to decide what to do about it. if he does by him that he does. in fact and has in fact by the gag order including fines and even was called stepping back a criminal defendant. did jail pending their compliance we've seen donald trump fine four things that he said, violating a gag order before. >> laura coates. thanks so much for the update from manhattan so the nypd is disbursed pro-palestinian protests on the campus columbia university. >> some students arrested, let away in zip ties we're going to take you there for an update and just moments what's it, like to hear from the people actually living the headlines? t. we'll talk to the people behind the trending stories. i've got a lot of
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