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Mueller. that's one thing that even the republican base certainly in congress has said he shouldn't do. and that option appears to be off the table. the other option is, what does he do about this interview request? does he say he is simply not going to testify and then run the risk of a subpoena? he could fight a subpoena in court, and that could take months. and it certainly would be accompanied by a lot of public relations fighting, as well. but, you know, it's really an all or nothing option with the president. he can, you know, go to war with mueller, fire him. he can refuse to talk to hi...

On this a lot of people under the assumption he leaves with big pay package, no need to second guess any of that charlie kept digging and digging and apparently that was not the case. good to see you my friend. >> thanks for having me. >> neil: what happened here. >> two stories here. what happened with les moonves forced out of cbs. that huge pay package have a lot of people thinking could be up to 180 million guaranteed is not guaranteed. sec. >> securities and exchange. >> pending the outcome. there is $120 million put in escrow pending the outcome of the investigation. he will either get o...

Equally applied. howie: a "washington times" report that he told bloomberg sessions is safe. everything leaks in this white house. all these backstage struggles play out on twitter and the tube. phillipe: if you want to fire him, fire him. the president has not fired anyone since jim comey on this matter because he knows how horribly that went for him. he could fire jeff sessions right now, but it won't go well for him. and it's not the media pressing him on that. the fact that lindsey graham and charles grassley changed their tune shows you how long it has bent republican congress has been sa...

Want to see the rule of law equally applied. howie: a "washington times" report that he told bloomberg sessions is safe. everything leaks in this white house. all these backstage struggles play out on twitter and the tube. phillipe: if you want to fire him, fire him. the president has not fired anyone since jim comey on this matter because he knows how horribly that went for him. he could fire jeff sessions right now, but it won't go well for him. and it's not the media pressing him on that. the fact that lindsey graham and charles grassley changed their tune shows you how long it has bent rep...

Background and it is troubling. >> let's talk about the attacks on going at this hour between the president and jeff sessions. do you want to see jeff sessions keep his job? >> i think jeff has exemplified someone who is timid but if you look at his record he has been consistent. that's between the president and the doj if there's issues there that maybe we're unbeknownst of but i think jeff sessions has done a decent job. i would like to see him more bold on the decisions that he is making for the country. >> but you don't want to see the president fire him? >> i don't think it's good necessa...