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I think the president is wrong. if you look at what jeff sessions has done on immigration, on migration, all the key, of the justice department, i think sessions has personally done an excellent job. >> that's why he is still there. when people say why doesn't the president fire him, it's because of those policies. >> i think the reason the president didn't fire him is because his lawyers won't let him. after being repeatedly humiliated. >> and if he resigns, trump gets to reappoint. if he's fired, then you have the fact of rosenstein becoming the attorney general and the senate not confirming...

Alleviate -- you own stock in a certain company, you sell it, now you're able to participate it. now here, he got out because he was viewed as being a partisan of the president and maybe had meetings with russian leaders during the campaign. >> john, is there anything wrong with the president of the united states multiple times pressuring the attorney general to unrecuse himself? is it obstruction of justice or not? >> i don't think so. i think what's going on here is president trump, sounds like he's grousing, whining, complaining. he's obsessed with the russia investigation. but it doesn't s...

If he's testifying before the mul special counsel multiple times. >> instead of just firing him, if he wants to fire him, fire him. but to see this kind of public humiliation going on and on and on, i don't remember a time when a member of the cabinet has been so publicly rebuked by the president, a president of the united states. let's talk about something else, gloria. trey gowdy, he's a republican congressman. he was in on one of those two very highly classified briefings that the justice department provided on the allegation by the president that the fbi was spying on his campaign. he knoc...

>> i wish i did. i wish i had a different attorney general. >> he could do something about that. >> it turns out the president can do something about that so for this constant twitter taunting of him is really just cruel. if he wants to fire him, fire him and jeff sessions -- where are you on this? your boss just told you he wishes somebody else had the job. >> i have a slightly different take on that. yes, he's taunting him. this is what the president does, unfortunately. but i don't think we should be, you know, baiting him to fire the attorney general. i think that would be completely inapp...

Meeting donald trump or the case of michael cohen, certainly looks like business transactions again, nothing to do with the campaign. >> marie: the flynn ones are much closer to the campaign and much closer to russia. he lied about things involving russia and the campaign left a little problematic for the president i think. or for michael flynn. >> harris: one thing the president obviously has its uses the midterm elections are creeping closer so he doesn't want to become a major distraction and if you were to fire him at this point, it becomes a distraction right about the point where people ...