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Places. i think the thing with rod rosenstein and his leaked behavior, i don't think it's a fireable offense. if you look at the sequence of when this happened, this was at the time of the comey firing. they had done a job on him. they lure him into writing a memo and said that made for the pretext for firing comey. he was under a lot of heat as a result of that, and he had a lot of reason to distrust the white house at that point. the other thing is apparently he was present when some people went over there for interviews to the fbi director, and he was appalled at the president's interview t...

He finds stenches in lots of places. i think the thing with rod rosenstein and his leaked information about his behavior, i don't think it's a fireable offense. if you look at the sequence of when this happened, this was at the time of the comey firing. they had done a job on him. they lured him into writing a memo and said that was, made that the pretext for firing comey. he was under a lot of heat as a result of that, and he had a lot of reason to distrust the white house at that point. the other thing is apparently he was present when some people went over there for interviews to be fbi dir...

Recording of a conversation that rosenstein had a secret recording. that, i'm sure if the president believes that to be true, that's a fireable offense. evan perez, you cover the justice department for us. this is all very explosive. >> well, it is explosive. i mean, let's just back up a little bit here. there actually wasn't -- nobody is actually saying that there was a recording, according to the "times" and the people that they spoke to, even rosenstein is now saying that this was a joke, that there was nothing ever suggested, something that they would -- >> let me reread the lead of the "n...

"new york times" op-ed where the author claimed to be working from inside the administration. tom dupree, how are you doing? good morning to you. investigate the author. is that going to happen? >> i think it will. the question is whether it's the justice department or internal white house investigation. for the justice department to investigate you really need evidence of criminal misconduct. i'm not sure that was in the four corners of that op-ed. you have evidence of criminal misconduct. you certainly have evidence of a fireable offense. every word and sentence of that op-ed is a fireable o...

But there has to be some trouble and concerns about the dossier and after it was discredited and what went on after that. >> there's absolutely a problem here with process and procedure. the f.b.i. is part of the department of justice. and i'll tell you, you can't have an agent whose spouse works for an agency who is producing information from a source and then passing it back to the f.b.i. why should doj be doing the exact same thing? you've got to haveng people who are unbiased and no connections here. this would be a problem in the f.b.i. and frankly a fireable offense. >> david: all right,...