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You all the latest from fbi. the guy checked the fun, done all by, according to the rules, then apparently went into the bathroom, loaded the gun and had two other magazines and came out shooting. >> they're concerned that it could happen, but there's no easy solution to keep did from happen. thousands of people every day who are hunters, firearms instructors get on planes, check their guns just as tom foreman described legally, and when they arrive at the other end they take their gun in the bag and and leave the airport typically, but there's nothing to stop someone who takes that gun up to ...

Enforcement officials about using blunt force and this is a perfect example of the new york state police department that can have taken down a cop killer but, instead he let him leave and believe me if this guy had the training we are talking about he knew where to shoot him in the back while running and know what major arteries and major organs not to hit to let him live. he is alive because of a new york state police sergeant today. >> how is the were any in that, can you believe it? take him down and let him live. he is a very bad guy but that is the duty, that is what happens when you put ...

This woman who is now a secret service agent? >> we've chosen not to use her name. it's not her fault the sheriff dragged her into this. as i understand she left it the sheriff's office three, four years ago, possibly more and the deputy reserve deputies have to qualify every year. so they lost those old records, where are the new ones? >> jim cavanaugh, your reaction to everything you've heard here so far? >> well, you know lawrence as a commander in law enforcement, every commander knows the first time one of your agents officers or deputies is involved in a shooting the first thing you have...

>> well, you know, lawrence, as a commander in law enforcement, every commander knows the first time one of your agents, officers or deputies is involved in a shooting, the first thing you have to produce is their firearms and training records going back for a few years. it's always relevant in a shooting case. we all know that. all departments maintain that. all agents, deputies, police officers routinely qualify with their firearms. they have to. there's a record kept. the firearms instructors keep them. there's not cheating. it should be structured. it's very tight. in the federal service i...

Relationship between newtown killer adam lanza, nor between nancy lanza with the national rifle association. firearms instructors issue nra certificates to people who complete certified classes, regardless of nra membership. joining me now in an exclusive interview, democratic governor of connecticut, dannel malloy and msnbc's joy reid. governor, what did -- what do you think the release of the new information that we now have, the details that we now have about what happened in connecticut, what do you think about how that information helps frame where the issue stands now? >> well, listen. w...