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That mr. mueller doesn't put out a lot of press releases. in fact, i can't remember the last mueller press release, but if they did, maybe they would say, hey, we had this meeting this week, with the trump legal team and everything went swimmingly. the question for you is, if you go into this meeting with the mueller team, one of these occasional meetings they do have, what's a victory for the trump legal team. what's a good outcome for the trump legal team in terms of a takeaway. >> the only thing that the trump team can hope to gain is to have a method of giving their opinion, their viewpoin...

If they did, maybe they would say, hey, we had this meeting this week, with the trump legal team and everything went swimmingly. the question for you is, if you go into this meeting with the mueller team, one of these occasional meetings they do have, what's a victory for the trump legal team. what's a good outcome for the trump legal team in terms of a takeaway. >> the only thing that the trump team can hope to gain is to have a method of giving their opinion, their viewpoint and making it in a persuasive way so that mueller hears and can think about it. on the other hand, by doing that, muel...