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Good fit? >> i love she added the second part of that question? because i think it's as important. your exit from somebody can change everything. they may still recommend you. how do you know when to say no? >> well, i don't know how you know when to say no, but there are situations where it's just not a fit. and i think that people appreciate you telling them that right up front. there's nothing worse than to be dragged along with something, well, i don't know, i don't know. and it's not a good fit. and these guys, i know these guys, they're very interesting. their whole concept, the whole ki...

Fit? >> i love she added that second part to the question. it's as important, your exit to somebody is as important. they may recommend you. >> i don't know how you know when to say no but there's situations when it's just not a fit. i think people appreciate you telling them that right up front. there's nothing worse than to be dragged along with something, i don't know, i don't know, and it's not a good fit. these guys, i know these guys, they're very interesting, the whole concept, kidnjer, it's very interesting in what they're doing, teaching children to become engineers. >> les who comes ...