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Safe procedure on it, try to open it without blowing up, safely -- make the device safe. then it will be sent to quaint quantico, where laboratory, forensics, can examine it for fingerprints, dna, mechanism, fusing and firing system and get that all going. >> as a reminder, you are looking -- this is an aerial shot of the postal facility where that package was delivered. it was intended for james clapper. he phoned in to our colleagues at cnn. let's listen to that. i think anyone who had been a critic of president trump need to be on extra alert and take some cautions an particularly with resp...

Victim. that's what i suspect here is that the timer was a safe arm switch and these packages were set to detonate when opened or the package was manipulated. i don't, ali, of any one of these that was opened by a citizen or victim. they were all opened as far as i can tell by the bomb squad. the bomb squad can open these in what we call render safe procedure without them detonating. so these devices can be fully functional. they're totally bombs under federal law. they have all the components to make a bomb, intended as a weapon. they're a bomb even if the circuits aren't so great. it can be ...

Set to detonate when opened or the package was manipulated. i don't, ali, of any one of these that was opened by a citizen or victim. they were all opened as far as i can tell by the bomb squad. the bomb squad can open these in what we call render safe procedure without them detonating. so these devices can be fully functional. they're totally bombs under federal law. they have all the components to make a bomb, intended as a weapon. they're a bomb even if the circuits aren't so great. it can be the bombs were never detonated because no victim ever opened them, or there was some problem in the...

Were not intended to detonate. that's a point you would consider. my analysis would be they were intended to detonate. just from what i see. here's some of the reasons. you don't put shrapnel, hidden shrapnel, glass, inside a pipe, to scare anybody. it's not going to scare anybody. you're not going to see it. if you want to put shrapnel to intimidate or, like, in a hoax device, you tape a bunch of nails around the outside of the bomb so the visual attack of your hoax bomb you see. that's not here. this is hidden shrapnel in the bomb. that makes me think this bomber wanted it to detonate. look ...

Standpoint? >> well, the details, indicate, on the remote control bomb, three pipe bombs tied together, used with remote control, fusing and firing system, that's very big. i think pete williams breaking that you know, these farook and his wife have been in contact with other known radicals that the fbi has been watching and monitoring, travel to saudi arabia and pakistan, the searches that uncovered 12 pipe bombs, the amount of ammunition on both of them, you know, as they continued to move after the attack at the inland center. so there's a lot of things here that when we add up, also pete w...