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Have a lorry. the other side can't be told. there's no counter to what the government is doing. so they will have a big hurdle i think to get over to even allow the information that's in front of a grand jury to get to the american people by way of mr. rosenstein because that is a miscarriage of justice. what else? obstruction of justice. i'm going through what they've been arguing. the president cannot obstruct justice for firing a subordinate, period. now what about this new thing they've come up, conspiracy to defraud an election? i would like to know, this conspiracy, exactly who to the pr...

Congress passed a statute to keep this information secret because when an individual is in front of a grand jury, they don't have a lorry. the other side can't be told. there's no counter to what then government is doing. so they will have a big hurdle i think to get over to even allow the information that's in front of a grand jury to get to the american people by way of mr. rosenstein because that is a miscarriage of justice. what else? obstruction of justice. i'm going through what they've been arguing. the president cannot obstruct w justice for firing a subordinate, period. now what about...

And after the conversations that they both had that could point the way to providing evidence of obstruction. >> on that point of obstruction, guys, let's roll that sound if we can pull it up, rudy giuliani talking about whether or not he believes the president can obstruct justice, if we can play that. >> you don't think a president can obstruct justice? >> he can, but in the case of firing a subordinate who's going to be replaced by somebody else on an acting basis immediately -- >> but it's why you fired them, corrupt intent, part of the legal analysis. >> it doesn't matter if in fact it ca...

>> which may happen, by the way. >> to be fair, i don't think it was ever presented to rosenstein that way. that's the reality. that he wants the reality. and i think the fbi didn't tell -- comey was -- it was really about the firing of comey that led to rosenstein. >> well, right. you wouldn't give me that early on in your conversation. you left it out of the analysis. the president firing comey had as much to do with rosen teen than anything else. >> no one is going to investigate. he has complete investigation to fire anybody he wants. >> what about corrupt intent? >> doesn't apply. >> why ...

>> a armenian community calls the lack of recognition a betrayal. and a capitulation to turkey. the chairman of the north carolina democratic party says he will not run for re-election next month. david parker was pressured to resign by other democrats including the governor in the fall-out over sexual harassment allegations at party headquarters. the executive director jay parmley already resigned. he was accused of sexually harassing a male employee and firing a subordinate. he denied harassment. as he reported earlier president obama was in north carolina. no word if chairman parker atten...