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Correct statement of key first amendment law, that people are entitled to political opinions. now, you, sir, obviously expressed your political opinions as to mr. trump and hillary clinton and various others in text messages to lisa page. >> i did. >> and she to you. >> yes. >> and these were private political opinions. >> yes. >> which you did not express publicly. >> correct. >> and the inspector general found with respect to the investigation into hillary, quote, we found no evidence that the conclusions by the investigators were based on their political opinions. that is correct, that that...

You don't think it's going to happen. >> we are all wearing the same outfit, but we will not agree on that. >> the lawyer behind this lawsuit is the same lawyer behind the hulk hogan lawsuit against media outlet gawker which bankrupted gawker. this is not a guy who is particularly frivolous and he knows his way around first amendment law, but i don't -- i don't see what the merit is. i mean, they cooperated with the book. >> yeah, they cooperated with the book, and also i think it would maybe be different if he was still a private citizen, but he's now the president of the united states. this ...

These extremist, white supremacist hate groups are just not worth its limited resources. i think there is a change there. by the change is not a change about the interpretation of first amendment law. the aclu has not said that it no longer believes hate speech is protected. the aclu is looking at these groups and saying that they pose an increased risk of violence. by the way, speech that is violent or creates imminent danger isn't protected anyway. thesen' groups really don't oftn fall under the protected speech anyway. >> tucker: that's wrong, as you know. this was decided in brandenburg ve...

>> i want to play something on the points you raise. look, i used to practice first amendment law, so i definitely share the concern about the obama justice department. they were highly aggressive on this. in addition, the other context, of course, is the internet, and it became drastically easier with groups like wikileaks to put out more voluminous material without the gatekeeper function of the press. i think that was the other macro factor driving more of those prosecutions although they concern us all. walter, take a listen to floyd abrams who won the pentagon papers case, who happens to ...

>> jonathan? >> that's an excellent description. let's just take the health care situation, for example. the house passes a bill. it's step one in, say, 20 steps to make this thing become law. what does president trump do? tells them to all come to the rose garden and have like a victory rally for this one step and say we're going to get this done and then what does he do a few weeks later, he says, well, that house bill was really mean. so you have a president who basically just wants victories. he just wants wins. as evan said, he just wants to be there for the photo op. he couldn't care wha...