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Created? and exactly what is the end game here? because at this point i don't see much of it from steyer. it's just we're going to spend money and raise awareness, but what's the political end game? i think the same can be said about the koch brothers. a lot of interest in what's the political end game. i think that's an important piece for a lot of americans right now to get answers. >> joe? >> mika, i've got absolutely no problem with it. i've said this for quite some time. if george sorros wants to spend a lot of money in politics, if the koch brothers want to do the same, if tom steye are ...

Russia about america exporting their natural gas. so far the gas boom in america has not yet been exported. the europeans are now saying give us those licenses. export more so we're not as dependent on russia anymore. i mean, whatever people are saying, it just feels like we have gone back 20 years to the time when we're looking at the balance of power between east and west. >> and mika, the dus function in washington, d.c. more than any issue where washington politicians are literally cutting off our noses to spite our faces, it's in this area of energy. and i'm not being harold ford here tal...

Comes as marco rubio says human activity is causing dramatic changes to the climate. michael steele, a lot of ways to look at this story. influence of money and politics or perhaps wanting to spread some sort of counter to what seems to be a narrative of denial. >> you know, i think it's a little bit of both, mika. i'm shocked that there's a liberal billionaire who's spending his money on issues and candidates that, you know, support his particular ideology. imagine that. it's just amazing that you have this environment that's now created a politics where those folks at that level are fully in...

His m recognition. he says if general shinseki doesn't think he can do the job, he'll leave the job. that's not how it works in the white house. it's not the cabinet secretary's job who's botched things up terribly over six years to decide whether or not he can do the job. that's what presidents are supposed to do. and mika, my question is to you and then to mike, my question to you is how can this president six years in act like this is the first problem with the va and say he's not going to stand for it if there's this sort of mismanagement and then not demand a resignation six years in? i'm...

There was an incredible performance by john legend last night. take a look. ♪ you fix your makeup just so guess you don't know that you're beautiful ♪ ♪ try on every dress that you own ♪ ♪ you were fine in my eyes a half hour ago ♪ >> so, mika, kate was blown away by john legend and everything. kate watches all the time. and big fan of john legend. so i tweeted out last night great performance by john legend. p.s., kate's a huge fan. he wrote back and said tell kate hi. she was jumping across the room. huge shock and it almost helped kate get past the fact that caleb was the winner...