It's an alternative to the traditional loan. our own laurie segall sat down with dorsey. what is he trying to do for small business? >> he wants to help small businesses grow. always jack's thing. first square was essentially, let's help small businesses accept credit card payments. now saying give them an alternative to a loan, a cash advancement if they want. not charge interest, pay percentage by day. i asked details behind that. listen to what he said. >> we have this deep, deep understanding of our merchants, because they're running their own business on the register, we can actually adva...