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Will give you the last word. >> part of the problem with the individual mandate, bill, is not that individuals getting subsidies. obama says individuals would see healthcare costs go down by $2,500 by the end of his first therm. -- term. not everybody is getting subsidies. a lot of people are either getting kicked off their insurance or watch their premiums rise significantly. >> those are people with a certain income. >> no, they are not bill, they are not the wealthy. that's the key here. that is the problem that obama's promise was a lie and that individuals and i'm not talking about high i...

>> a lot of the money is going to come from having people in the pool who are buying insurance lenny is not going to be subsidizing squiggy. it has to come through a funnel of corporations because that's where most people have jobs -- kate, i will give you the last word. >> part of the problem with the individual mandate, bill, is not that individuals getting subsidies. obama says individuals would see healthcare costs go down by $2,500 by the end of his first therm. -- term. not everybody is getting subsidies. a lot of people are either getting kicked off their insurance or watch their premiu...

Will give you the last word. >> part of the problem with the individual mandate, bill, is not that individuals getting subsidies. obama says individuals would see healthcare costs go down by $2,500 by the end of his first therm. -- term. not everybody is getting subsidies. a lot of people are either getting kicked off their insurance or watch their premiums rise significantly. >> those are people with a certain income. >> no, they are not bill, they are not the wealthy. that's the key here. that is the problem that obama's promise was a lie and that individuals and i'm not talking about high i...

Will give you the last word. >> part of the problem with the individual mandate, bill, is not that individuals getting subsidies. obama says individuals would see healthcare costs go down by $2,500 by the end of his first therm. -- term. not everybody is getting subsidies. a lot of people are either getting kicked off their insurance or watch their premiums rise significantly. >> those are people with a certain income. >> no, they are not bill, they are not the wealthy. that's the key here. that is the problem that obama's promise was a lie and that individuals and i'm not talking about high i...