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Cable to secretary pompeo beginning with the words, i am concerned. that's part of the consistent story that's coming together here, is it not? >> yeah. in a firstperson cable. the state department, you know that's a very rare thing when a diplomat will put something in a first person context. that's the point democrats have been making about the public hearings next week. they believe for the most part the facts are not in dispute about how the administration was running a rogue foreign policy as it pertained to ukraine. that's a picture they want to paint. the role of rudy giuliani, often th...

And that that in and of itself would also be damaging to the u.s.' relationship with ukraine. >> something you'll hear a lot from republicans as taylor himself acknowledges, he never had direct conversations with the president about that. >> gordon sondland did. >> gordon sondland did, and you have to ask if rudy giuliani is making policy on whose behalf is he doing that? and so -- >> according to rudy giuliani, giuliani has been saying repeatedly he was doing it on behalf of donald trump. so that's the other bit of this. giuliani is not showing a away from the fact that his client, the way th...