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I do. >> too weird as well? >> well, i don't want to get into a discussion of this legal term weird. certainly, you assess witnesses and their believability to juries. carter page would have some issues. even george papadopoulos has some issues because he's an admitted liar. those are all things that you consider in deciding whether somebody makes a good witness. but you can often bolster a witness who might have some credibility problems if you can have objective evidence to corroborate their story. so if e-mails support the story or recorded conversations support the story, then it doesn't m...

That meeting. it was a very unimportant meeting. it took place a long time. i don't remember much about it. >> and maybe he doesn't. or maybe his medicalory could also, too, be refreshed by investigators' questions down the road. as mark twain said, if you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything. >> with me now, barbara mcquaid, and former prosecutor, cynthia. barbara, the memories. they're coming back. >> it's very interesting to see. i think what we have going on here is, when it is convenient, people are quick to say, i don't remember. i don't know what happened. when you realiz...