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Tower would be if law enforcement believed there was probable cause there was a crime being committed by someone this trump tower. you might have wiretap. if our intelligence community believed that there was some activity that involved a foreign power or foreign agents there could be a fisa wiretap. that would require not the president of the united states to say hey let's tap donald trump. it would require law enforcement to appear in front of a federal judge, demonstrate probable cause and get authorization for wiretap. >> let's turn to an issue which i don't think the president wants us to...

United states can order legitimately any wiretap. that's just not the way the system works. there is two things that clapper said i think are really important. one if there is no fisa warrant, i found that being and a bold statement as well as him saying there was no collusion with the russians. if you think about all of the discussions over the last months those are two very definitive statements. again, there are still some questions to be answered here as we move forward but it is not helpful for the president of the united states to say that the former president, unless he throws a dossier...

Since you are on the intelligence committee, you are a member of congress likely you would not choose sarcasm. does that mean that you really think that there is no chance that there is any credibility to this allegation. i think there is no chance to the correlate of the allegation that president obama wiretapped donald trump. the president of the united states doesn't have the power to wire tab ib in. the only kwai to get a wiretap is in a criminal court or the fisa court. they need to give the fbi a warrant to set up those taps. the odd thing about president trump's allegations is that if...

President is someone who is very upset and angry that somehow his phone calls or staff's phone calls could have been listened to. >> okay. go ahead. robert. >> from any report that we have, the president is basing his twitter outburst between right-wing radio commentator and breitbart. which is a leading perpetrator of fake news. >> let's understand, if i can finish my point, ben. >> let robert finish and i'll go to you, ben. >> let me point out, if in fact president trump's conduct or his staff's conduct was so extreme that it merited a fisa wiretap, which is very, very, very high threshold t...

Anything as president. that would have to come from the fbi submitting an affidavit for a fisa wiretap. on whoever it might be and doing this on a daily basis at the fbi and the number of counterterrorism investigations, but the idea that the sitting p president would order the fbi to do it, i think the president with any political ak u men would not do it because it would come back on him. some day, it would become public and become extremely negative on a president that did that, but the question in this case is wasn't in fact actually fisa wiretaps. you have official frs the obama administr...