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Confidential meetings, if they continue to comment on what was said or not said, what was meant, they will never get out of this box. they shouldn't comment. they never should have said anything about this comment. >> come on. of course they should have. not only should they have said john mccain doesn't deserve it. the president could have tweeted it. >> once you start commenting about leaks out of those meetings, you will never be able to appropriately run your agenda. and you shouldn't comment on it. >> she deserves credit for telling meghan mccain but she shouldn't have told the rest of us...

Press. and that's really dangerous around the world. >> i want to take a look at one more piece of sound from michael bloomberg. mentioned him in the beginning. his comments about dishonesty. here's something he said, again, mentioning trump without using the word "trump." >> so how did we get here? how did we go from a president who could not tell a lie to politicians who could not tell the truth? from a george washington who embodied honesty to a washington, d.c. defined by deceit. >> frank sesno, last word to you on this overall issue. lies and leaks from the white house. is it all essentia...

Former aide to george w. bush, and malcolm nance, a veteran of the united states navy and msnbc terrorism analyst. let me ask you about this. fish rots from the top. what do you make of that kind of comment passing? one person obviously didn't like it because they ratted her out. but somebody making a statement like that in a white house meeting. what do you make of that, elise? >> it all stems from the top, chris. it starts from the top. this is a president who has shown himself repeatedly to have an unparalleled ability to just unleash casual cruelty. you look at all of the numerous incident...

Before. they just don't believe in them. we're seeing a lot of coincidences here, a lot of seemingly coordinated effort. obviously there's a lot of smoke. you're right, chris. i mean this is swampy. there's no specific criminal behavior that's sort of out in the open as of yet because we know the federal bribery law is pretty narrow. you have to have a real quid pro quo, a real formal action. so far we haven't really seen that, but we're certainly getting close. >> anyone who doesn't see the russian connection to this administration refuses to see it. natasha bertrand, david corn, charlie syke...

Dying of cancer so there's no point in which this man will convey any shred of decency in his white house. the fish rots from the head. everybody in that white house takes their cues in the way they treat people and the disrespect with which they treat people from the president of the united states. >> susan, it's interesting because it wouldn't be a nice thing to say about anybody. it's unusual because of the disrespect the president has shown john mccain. what a lot of republicans have learned is that john mccain can be a thorn in people's side. he has people who respect him for taking a sta...