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More video of it it makes me angry because i can't believe we give someone that much power someone who is not wearing a banl or a uniform, that much power to take lives in moments. it's unbelievable. >> this fetish for the second amendment, we seem to care not that much about the fist amendment these days. >> i haven't met one person who is anti-second amendment. the thing is when people say we should talk about gun legislation and what's smart and what's not, you're anti-the second amendment or you're a left wing loon. >> it's a ludicrous thing for people to say because the words in that amen...

Protest. but now the group which fiercely dmends everyone's right to free speech and the right to protest is saying they will no longer defend hate groups who want to protest with firearms. but some critics on both the left and the right say it's time for the aclu to rethink how they defend the fist amendment. a recent on the part ed in "the new york times" argues, quote, sometimes standing on the right side of history in defense of a cause you think is right is still just standing on the wrong side of history. chuck todd spoke with the author of that credit eke, kay sue park. >> historically ...

That i haven't ruled in. >> i'm going to do a lot of work in antitrust, senator lee and i have been heading up the committee, i'm going to end in honor of my dad, a newspaper reporter, and especially concerned in the attacks on the media about maintaining the press's role as a watchdog, freedom of the press in the fist amendment. thomas jefferson said to leave all avenues open through truth and the first way to do that is true the freedom of the press. the court issued landmark ruling in support of first amendment by confirming when newspapers reports on public officials they can say what they...

Extend protections for religious liberties for business owners who say person policies violate their consciences. if you don't accept corporate personhood, i think this is the opposite case for you. you say why do we protect this particularly if the government believes that providing contraceptives promote the common good? >> russell, is there some sort of compromise that the supreme court could come up with, to please both sides? >> well, i think what the supreme court can do is to say that the government must show a compelling interest to override people's deeply held faith commitments. and ...

>> your volunteer lawyer is from the institute of justice. they defend people like ron. what is this about? >> the fact that a veterinarian should be able to give advice and it shouldn't be illegal. fist amendment right to free speech and power of occupation. >> what laws is he violating? >> texas says a vet can't give vet advice unless a vet has examined the animal in person once he can't because the animals he helps are all over the world. >> ron, you do this because you used to have a practice but you have back problems so you wanted to do it by telephone or internet? >> yes. seemed like an...