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The appropriate opportunities to do that right now? >> two ways to look at it. yes, the united states and both in in administration and previous ones have had very honest direct conversations with china, particularly on economic fronts. time geithner has made a number of trips this talking about china. what it has to do relative to its currency. by the same token, china is now a rising power, it's a force in the united nations. when you look at a situation like syria, you have to do business with china, because china and russia have blocked intervention with respect to syria and when you think...

Of the courts. that could bring real world common sense to it. she understands the struggles of real world. >> i agree, it sounds like a plea. every time a supreme court nomination or vacancy comes up, we do this. y with start talking about people who i think will never get nominated. a great conversation. something usually had here in washington, d.c., and only in washington, d.c., but ultimately -- >> you're suggesting we're disconnected from 'ali eed from >> just a touch. >> he does have people on the short list that are not your typical run of the mill folks. >> this sounds like a believe ...