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Enforcement in return. things like funding for the border wall, things like an end to chain migration, things like an end to the visa lottery. this is why i know some people are saying two or three days. i'll take the over on that on the vegas line because it seems to me if the democrats are firm in saying no daca, no spending deal, they won't get a daca deal in two or three days. it will take a while. >> bill: daca doesn't expire until march. why not continue, like speaker ryan was making the point here, continue in good-faith negotiations, you cut the deal, keep the government open until at ...

Senate, sandra, there aren't 60 republicans in the senate. there are three republicans who aren't voting for the plan as it stands. >> we don't know that. that's all to be determined. the fact is this, you're right juan and sandra, the democrats have some leverage here. it takes 60 votes. once again we've never, ever been in this position as a country before even when george w. bush was president because the democrats realize this is the -- they don't believe in shutdowns, they tell us. they want this shutdown. why do they want this shutdown? they're playing to their base on extreme politics a...

Holding the government hostage for something unrelated. the daca negotiations are underway right now that have been occurring for some time and that deadline is not until march. so what they're simply trying to do is hold all of government hostage, our troops, kids health insurance for a completely unrelated issue. i think it's shameful. >> bill: you know your history. republicans have taken heat for shutdowns in the past. democrats are arguing you have the majority in the house, senate and white house. i know you need 60 votes in the senate. you need nine democrats at this rate it seems like ...

Opening of anwr and the democrat base is demanding from pelosi and schumer what will you do for us? they don't have anything to say other than shut down the government. it's unclear to us what they're asking in fact to help us get a continuing resolution approved to keep the government open. we're working day in and day out on a daca deal. the negligent yaixs are continuing. we had a good meeting yesterday with durbin, hoyer, mccarthy and hoyer. we're making progress. unclear what the demand is. >> sandra: working under the assumption the government does shut down, what does that mean exactly?...

>> i can't say what is going to happen. mick can answer how the shutdown looks. the deal is let's not shut the government down. let's keep the government going. let's keeps our troops funded and get children's health insurance. seven states will run out of money soon and have to cut off the chip program. we funded it for six years. we want to get a daca solution that is balanced and that works and everybody knows this. those talks are underway right now. i just talked to kevin mccarthy on his way to those buy part son negotiations. the next number of days keep the talks going, get the solution...