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There would be enough internal strife in the house where democrats could make the case very convincingly republicans control both houses of congress and the presidency. how are you going to blame us, the democrats, for a shutdown? once the republicans did come together and vote to pass a funding bill plus that chip extension for six years, now it shifts back to the upper chamber and democrats basically saying we're shutting this down unless you give us what we want on this dreamer situation. and we'll see how it plays. >> bill: which isn't going to happen based on the reporting we're getting. ...

Easy for the folks in the room. they are politicians and they understand it. what happened particularly with the president's s hole remarks a week ago last thursday, is that i think it's hardened the democratic base. there are a lot of people in the left wing of the democratic party, the immigration advocates who didn't want to make a deal with the president anyway. but after those remarks -- i'm not saying it's totally his fault. part of the problem is both sides think to its their political advantage or the disadvantage of the opposite side. i think that hardened the feeling on people in the...

There are good faith negotiations ongoing on daca and i think what republicans will be arguing is you don't need to couple these two issues right now today. keep the government open, extend the healthcare program for kids, and let the ongoing conversations about daca continue until next month or ahead into march when there actually is a deadline on that question and let them play out an separate tracks. >> bill: more to come on this. instant analysis. >> sandra: we'll be following the latest wheeling and dealing in washington coming up marc short gives us his take on the likelihood of a deal a...

In our government. they still wield influence and that's why we have to get this information out in public. >> bill: you said people will be fired at the f.b.i. and department of justice. >> and possibly worse. there could be people who could face criminal consequences as a result of the activities that are laid out in this memo. it is easy to see after reading this memo why senator grassley and why senator graham wanted to refer this matter for criminal prosecution. laws were broken. >> bill: this is a big deal here. will we see it yes or no? >> yes, i have every confidence after speaking wit...

Harmful impact. director mulvaney will go through the impacts more specifically at 10:30 this morning. >> sandra: if you could give us more details on that. you and the white house in general have been saying we can't let it get to this point. we're at this point now. if there is a government shutdown and a deal wasn't able to get done to avoid that, what happens while the government is shut down? what sort of deal making? what's the process look like while it's closed? >> there are certain essential workers who will continue to work and negotiate if we reach that point. i think there is a lot...