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Immigrants. and as a result, many hispanic voters just decided to stay home. and, in fact, there was at least one activist group that was encouraging its members not to vote for democrats because they thought democrats hadn't fought hard enough and, of course, the caving that we saw from chuck schumer when democrats tried to use a government shutdown legislation to save daca but then failed, that's something that frustrates their base at the same time for democrats to win over the votes in that blue wall, for them to win back the blue wall, pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, even -- look, minn...

Particular, this is the issue. >> right. >> right now, and on the other hand, you talk about some of those voters out there who traditionally voted democrat, flipped to trump, who maybe want to see a democrat get up there and say, take a harder line on the border. is there any way you can span that divide? >> it's hard when you have a president also who is changing his mind in, like i said, sort of making it impossible to negotiate. but i think one issue that the democrats really struggle with is they're not united. we saw -- i went back during what we call the chuck schumer debacle, some demo...

So, is he really calling for a demilitarized zone with absolutely no movement back and forth at the u.s./mexico border? hard to say because on one hand it's just a political rally. he's talking to his base. he's also the commander in chief. i think a lot of this is unfortunately political messaging in the same way the citizenship question we're seeing now on the 2020 census. i think a lot of this is little lobs across the white house fence to the base. and i think, you know, the president knows the 2018 election is coming up and i think some kind of daca deal might not play well with that rile...

Stay? is that what you're trying to say here? >> look, you know how the legislative process works. we're going, we're going to go back there and we're going to look at what kind of tax situation we're going to have, that it's fair to everybody. that's what we're going to do. but the bottom line is these taxes to the wealthiest and the big companies are not fair. they put a burden on state and local governments and put the burdens on shoulders of working people. it's not just the tax cuts. it's also the budget impact that tax cuts are going tomorrow. those things hurt working people and we're f...

I think the president we're not clear what prompted the tweets this morning and might have been seeing something on fox fews about folks making way to the mexican border. he sends off the series of tweets and says no more daca deal f. you're a democrat or if you're a republican in washington, thinking there's a compromise to be worked on here, what's your reaction to this tonight? >> it's certainly a reaction of pessimism for democrats. the tweets and miller for years back to his time on capitol hill under then senator jeff sessions is one that people are coming to the united states because th...