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Sends it down to the southern district after mueller sends it to rosenstein and gets down there and now you can -- you know, you can do things and look for information in a new venue with someone, you're right, that's closer to the president. >> i hear thates argument a lot. this is about trump. well, if trump did nothing wrong, then why is everyone so worried about it? michael cohen was his fixer. what was he fixing? >> laura: you know something that "fixer phrase" and, dan, you can chime in here. i'mra so sick of hearing "fixer" it's like, "fixer, fixer, fixer." what do you pay a lauer for? ...

That at all. at least there's no evidence we have of that fact. but it's the messaging that he's doing. he's trying to say there's nothing to see here. there's no there there. this payment was about, you know, helping marital problems. >> it was also he said at the same time he also said within the same 24-hour period, it was about the october 15 time frame. which is it? >> clearly, that's what it is. just saying given these other reasons on television doesn't sway investigators into this. i know personally as a lawyer i never forwarded $130,000 for a client, you know, to be nice. this is prob...