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It's always a provocation followed by a dialogue followed by another provocation. so as you look at what actually is going on on the ground, it's amazing what's available through unclassified commercial satellite photography. they never stop making fizol material. they were able to do six more nuclear devices during 2018. they never stopped manufacturing intermediate range ballistic missiles. we now think they have a prototype for an icbm. and there is no reason to believe that the research and development didn't continue at a pace also. i think they walked to the launch site at the edge to se...

By the way, up front, brian, obviously we ought to applaud the administration's willingness to engage, to negotiate, to talk to the north koreans. no question. but when you sort of back off, i followed the north korean issue for 25 years now. it's a remarkable history. they have never lived up to what they said they would do. it's always a provocation followed by a dialogue followed by another provocation. so as you look at what actually is going on on the ground, it's amazing what's available through unclassified commercial satellite photography. they never stop making fizol material. they we...

This dictator, alone in his level of trust of this dictator, was he also alone in not being able to see this coming? have they ever not been working on their nuclear program? >> it's a remarkable situation. by the way, up front, brian, obviously we ought to applaud the administration's willingness to engage, to negotiate, to talk to the north koreans. no question. but when you sort of back off, i followed the north korean issue for 25 years now. it's a remarkable history. they have never lived up to what they said they would do. it's always a provocation followed by a dialogue followed by anot...