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Outrage pulling sneakers featuring the betsy ross flag. our next guest spent his fourth of july painting that flag outside nike headquarters here in new york city. pete: here is scott lo lobado. jedediah: this is gorgeous. >> i have been painting the flag for 25 years. that's my thing. i started doing the flag stuff back in the 1990s when political correctness popped its ugly head up and started the thing with the flag. here we are again. the reason i was out there fighting on independence day in front of nike is wasn't for me. sunday i spent the day with a world war ii verb, 94 years old, a f...

Opportunities this is sell tore i event. where the president comes in shakes a couple hands and takes a picture and leaves and i'm not interested in that. >> but if you don't go does it make it seem like you are not patriotic or mad at america? how do you deal with people make those criticisms? >> i any everybody has their own opinion. when it comes to this presidency i'm not very excited about getting my picture taken with him. not worth my time. i'd rather spend my time working on issues we've been fighting for of the that's my personal decision. >> tough question for you. tu said one of you...

Happen. if donald trump called you and said, look, i don't like your protest, your flag stuff, whatever, i'm going to put that to one side. come to oval office and talk to me about a substantive issue like criminal justice reform, would you do it? >> i would definitely consider it. if i wouldn't, what is it i'm trying to accomplish. if you can go directly to the president of the united states and talk about these issues plaguing our communities, that's a responsibility for us, regardless of how you feel about somebody on a personal level. >> so van, he's not going to the white house because he...