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Coast democrat, that he's still joe from west virginia. but he's also a democrat, and does joe manchin want a man in position where he would be the only democrat voting for brett kavanaugh, and if another one of those republicans defect, so if susan collins or jeff flake decides to vote no, that would put joe manchin in a position of being the 50th vote, being a vote that puts brett kavanaugh over the top. is that something he wants to do? >> also, man -- he told us he was still reviewing the fbi file. he was back in that secure room this morning going over it. i think it's entirely possible h...

And witnesses from deborah ra ramirez was not interviewed and so how can you consider that a investigation? it is far from a investigation. >> i want to play the sound of jeff flake. >> glad that we did it. >> you plan to vote yes tomorrow? >> yes. unless something with big were to change. i think that we had a process. >> what about -- >> no, i admire her a lot. and everybody had to make their own decision, and i think the world of her. >> and what kind of conversation did you have with mr. manchin, but i will lett him characterize it, but it was -- anyway, i admire him, too. this is a tough ...

Trouble? >> this is a very unusual step for any supreme court nominee. usually you don't see them speak at any venues outside of the confirmation hearings. there's almost radio silence apart from those things, so the fact that he actually went to this level of public communication i think is pretty startling: i think a lot of us had expected this was a done deal, maybe this op-ed was even just a way of closing the loop, making the case to senator jeff flake who had expressed some concerns about the judge's temperament, that that was not going to be an issue going forward. and also, this is som...