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Constitutional duty of impartiality and he talks about the oath of office. so, julian, is this holiday season going to serve as time for some of these lawmakers to either reconsider, reassess, hear from their constituents? might it actually change any of their thinking on their strategy moving forward in this impeachment? >> i wouldn't bet any money on that. i think the fact that this is coming from senator flake who's been very eloquent, but when he was in office he didn't really cause many problems for the president and ultimately was pretty loyal to the administration is very telling. and i...

Against republicans and say that if we're going to have this trial and come up with some sort of agreement bipartisan to push forward at trial, we need to make sure we're hearing from the people that have the actual evidence. and these emails show that michael duffy is one of those people who was intricately involved in this process. democrats definitely wanting to hear from him. some republicans may want to hear from him as well. whether they can reach some agreement will be key to what the trial will look like. >> and this holiday break gives lawmakers some time to do some reflecting. former...

That there is an alternative to donald trump in the republican primaries and that's a two-term republican governor who's a proven and economic fiscal conservative. that would be me. so, no, i'm not worried about anything. >> can i read the title of this "new york times" article again. it reads, fear and loyalty. how donald trump took over the republican party. why do you believe that trump is, in a way, the hill that they are willing to die on because the party keeps defending what some call the indefensible? >> i don't know whether it's stockholm syndrome, people identifying with their captor...

Senator flake to bring it up, it's fine. but let's face it. he's former senator flake. he should've stayed in the fight at least given it a try if he wanted to have the credibility there. that's not to say that we won't see republicans in the senate look for some fairness. now, i think, unfortunately, it will only be a handful. but we could see susan collins or cory gardner for re-election. we know mitt romney's a big fan of the constitution and probably wants to hold the president accountable. and lastly, lamar alexander. he's another one who is not running for re-election, who has the abilit...

A good, long ride during the kavanaugh hearings, especially after he was made aware of those women's concerns in the elevator. jeff flake just decided to confirm the guy, left for arizona, didn't look back. thanks so much for having me to talk about this. i think that we're going to see some degree of concerned face perhaps from republican senators and then they are going to move on and not vote to convict and remove the president from office. and at least senator flake, and i write about him extensively in the book, and the long night he says he had, longest night of