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And they will be able to tell if this is an aircraft seat or not. everything else would have to float. i did see online from reunion island somebody posted a picture of the window parts. it did look like it could be a window part but, again -- and there's just so much trash in the ocean, it's difficult to know if that would be it for sure. it has to meet exacting specifications. boeing engineers will know whether that is a part or not. it may not have a serial number on the window part. it could be what's called a standard part. so yes, they should be skeptical unless and until tested and full...

Of defense which is already running investigations on that flaperon identified late yesterday evening, carol, as part of mh-370. carol? >> sigh ma mow shin thanks so much. reporting live this morning. let's talk with cnn aviation analyst and former inspector general of the department of inspection mary skichiavo. good morning, mary. >> good morning. >> family members, they don't even believe that flaperon is the real deal even though malaysian authorities say it is. so should we believe them this time around when they say they found all of that debris on reunion island suddenly? >> not without...