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Up to this attack, what was the trigger moment that basically led him to walk into a chocolate shop armed with a gun. those are questions that still remain to be answered. >> atika shubert live in london, thank you so much. australian officials had tried to negotiate the release of the hostages with the gunman before storming the cafe. daniel o shea was a member of the hostage working group in iraq from 2004 to 2006 and joins us live from tampa, florida. what do you think made them decide to launch the rescue attempt after 16 hours or so of the hostages being kept inside the cafe? >> well, w...

Certainly someone is in grave danger just outside the cafe being treated at the moment and yet again more ambulances are leaving to head to the cafe to see what they can do. >> sean, it's been interesting with the revelations of the identity of this man and his history of violence and we know he was before the courts only last week and he's on bail for being an accessory to the murder of his ex-wife. maybe that knowledge of the violence of the gunman was something that provoked them into action all that faster? >> well, yes, i guess it's been reported from early on that he was known by police....

>> in the secret service we have an advance counter sniper division and what they tell you is first thing they look for is open not closed windows. even a thin piece of glass can deflect a bullet significantly enough especially from a distance so that you miss the target. now you have a situation where the target knows you engaged him and you shot at him and you missed. it grows the danger of the situation. that's why. >> we know according to this news conference, new south wales they said they heard the gunfire, they then rushed in. looked like they were using flash bangs. what's going throug...

It looks like mission accomplished. >> well, i think the gunman is down. i think we can accept that. and there is no sense of danger. right now their priority will be to work on those injured, the hostages, obviously. and that job, obviously, befalls the paramedics that have been on standby now for 16, 17 hours since this began. >> a mammoth effort. thanks very much. we'll cross back to sean berry now. sean is on the street. sean, tell us what you're seeing from your angle. >> the five brigade officers have moved in as well as police officers. it's a lot of panic here. cars were zipping everyw...

Surroundings, to make sure they take their own personal security in mind, don't go anywhere where you might -- where something bad can happen. a final question to you, fofo floria. we only hear about the lone wolfes that are quote/unquote successful. but tell us about the ones that they have been able to stop. >> they've been taking a lot of measures to get dangerous people off the streets so there's lot of cooperation between the fbi and other police forces across the world. so worldwide we try to be as proactive as possible through intelligence, analyst, and all of these other techniques w...