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Not our democracy. and the most enduring strength of our country as opposed to around the world, we have peacefully transferred power for 200 however many years and now we have a president who's hinting that maybe we won't. maybe we won't. >> we keep using the word hint. i don't think it's a hint, it's a flat out statement. he's saying vit military, the cops, and the bikers and he's saying this outloud in an interview, david. >> he said during the debates as we recall in 2016 that there may not be a peaceful transfer, you know, that if he lost that he wouldn't necessarily concede. so it's not ...

That george papadopoulos, who, by the way, worked under him for the national security team under the trump campaign, had communications with the russians, and, in fact, he shot down a proposal that george wanted for trump and putin to meet. that is very different than what he told the u.s. senate. >> well, let me give his version, right? the version that the attorney general has entered into evidence is, that he didn't remember that when asked by the senate that when he read the press reports, he did remember the one detail that he was the one that pushed back against the idea. >> you know, if...

They hear. dig a little deeper. demand of your news media to put out all the facts and then you can make your own decisions about what actions should take place or what course of action anyone or our government should proceed with. >> and i think that's all well intended, well and good. but isn't it time for maybe the congressional black caucus to step up and make a pledge that you're not going on fox news anymore? you don't need to be on any of those programs. i mean, it would seem to me that until you put the hammer down as a group, that would stick up for shirley sherrod and make a flat out...

Earlier this year, he said he had no communications with the russians. just a flat out statement. that was wrong. because as you noted, the free press showed he had multiple communications with russian ambassador sergey kislyak. he was known in the u.s. intelligence committee as a master spy and recruiter of spies. that would be a very important fact for people to know. and today was also seen that jeff sessions lied on a security clearance form, again denying any contacts with russian foreign government officials. >> again, though, he is saying these are omissions. the -- i know you are sayin...